Look Who It Is Podcast · Episode 20
Roger Springer and the Return of Traditional Country
Songwriter Roger Springer talks about the return of traditional country, the loyalty behind his decades-long partnership with Mark Chesnutt, and why mentoring younger artists begins with finding people whose talent and character he truly believes in.
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A conversation about 36 years of songwriting, Oklahoma honky-tonks, Nashville record deals, Mark Chesnutt, mentoring young artists, and the craft behind lasting country songs.
About Roger Springer
Roger Springer is an Oklahoma-born country songwriter and recording artist whose career spans more than three decades. After moving to Nashville in 1989, he signed with MCA and released “The Right One Left” before turning his attention toward songwriting. He later recorded with the Roger Springer Band for Giant Records.
Springer's writing credits include songs recorded by Mark Chesnutt, George Strait, Sammy Kershaw, Daryle Singletary, Wade Hayes, Kenny Rogers, and other country artists. His long partnership with Chesnutt produced songs including “It's a Little Too Late,” “Let It Rain,” “Thank God for Believers,” and “I Might Even Quit Lovin' You.”
What we talked about
- Why traditional country music has returned after years outside the mainstream
- Finding younger singers who share his musical values and approach to life
- Keeping a small, loyal circle of artists and co-writers
- Writing with Mark Chesnutt on the road and remaining friends decades later
- His long creative partnership with songwriter Tim Menzies
- Working with Will Banister, Jake Worthington, Colton Dawson, Belle Frantz, Chandler Walters, and ERNEST
- Starting songs without a title and letting the room's energy reveal the idea
- Moving from Oklahoma honky-tonks and a sausage factory to Nashville
- Why receiving a record deal too quickly became an important failure
- Learning songwriting from experienced writers after signing with EMI
- Building multi-day writing camps around music, food, and trusted relationships
- Recognizing great talent quickly and choosing where to invest years of work
- Why he limits outside listening while writing and records melodies immediately
- Self-editing weak ideas before they become finished songs
Traditional country comes back around
Springer never doubted that traditional country would return, but he did not know how long the cycle would take. For roughly two decades, his phone rang less often because the songs he wrote did not match the direction of mainstream country. The renewed interest in real lyrics, strong melodies, fiddle, steel guitar, and older influences has made his work busier again.
He expected the comeback to be a more progressive version of 1990s country. Instead, many younger artists reached further back toward the sounds of the 1960s, '70s, and '80s. When radio did not offer what they wanted, they found authentic country performances online and learned directly from them.
Artists such as Zach Top and Jake Worthington represent that shift, but Springer sees a wider group of young musicians who are technically advanced and deeply grounded in traditional country. To him, they are not simply recreating the 1990s. They are drawing from an even older foundation and carrying it forward in their own way.
A small circle built on loyalty
Springer does not write with a large number of people. He wants collaborators whose talent he admires and whose character he respects. Once he believes in somebody, he tends to stay involved for years. That loyalty has shaped relationships with Will Banister, Jake Worthington, and other artists who return to his home to write.
His partnership with Mark Chesnutt began in the 1990s and extended through seven years of writing on Chesnutt's tour bus. After shows, the two would listen to country music, have a few beers, and often find themselves writing before the night ended. Chesnutt eventually recorded dozens of their songs, but the relationship lasted because they shared much more than a business arrangement.
Springer has also written with Tim Menzies since 1991. Their connection survived even when Springer's first MCA record deal did not. Those long relationships demonstrate his larger rule: two successful writers can admire one another's work and still fail to click in the same room. The right collaborators become closer to family.
A record deal before he was ready
Springer moved to Nashville in 1989 after years of playing Oklahoma clubs, lodges, rodeos, and honky-tonks while working during the week at a sausage factory. He received a record deal within roughly two months of arriving. At first, that speed looked like extraordinary luck. In hindsight, he considers it one of the worst things that could have happened because he had not spent enough time learning what made a great song or record.
“The Right One Left” arrived in early 1992, and the deal ended shortly afterward. Springer then signed with EMI Music Publishing, entering a building filled with established writers while he was still learning the craft. He credits writers including Tim Menzies, Dean Dillon, Tony Martin, and Whitey Shafer with allowing him into their rooms and showing him how professional songwriting worked.
Years of writing hits with Chesnutt led to a second recording opportunity and the Roger Springer Band album. This time Springer knew more and had greater control over the songs, but he ultimately returned to the part of the business that fit him best: staying home, writing, and helping the right artists build records.
How the right room finds a song
Springer often enters a session without a finished title or carefully prepared concept. Somebody picks up a guitar, a melody starts to form, and the writers work their way toward the idea. He believes the strongest songs often appear when nobody is straining to manufacture them and the people in the room trust one another enough to follow the energy.
The pace changes with every combination of writers. Some rooms produce multiple songs in a few hours; others need a full day to finish one. Speed does not decide quality. Experience helps Springer recognize when an idea is losing its feeling, abandon it quickly, and move toward something with more life instead of finishing a song that everyone already knows is merely acceptable.
Artists traveling from outside Nashville may stay at Springer's house for several days. The visit becomes a small song camp: write for four or five days, cook, eat, talk, and repeat. Working that closely turns the creative process into more than a scheduled appointment and helps explain why Springer chooses collaborators he genuinely wants around.
Capturing the part that cannot be taught
Springer separates songwriting into inspiration and craft. The craft includes shaping a country lyric, pairing words with melody, and judging whether an idea is worth finishing. The first spark is harder to explain. A melody can fall into the room without warning, and if nobody is recording, that exact moment may never return.
He deliberately limits how much outside music he hears while writing because melodies can lodge in a writer's head and reappear unintentionally. He may check the radio occasionally or pick up a banjo to enjoy bluegrass, but most of his listening time is secondary to the songs being created around him.
After decades in the business, Springer can explain the work required to develop judgment, but he does not pretend there is a guaranteed formula. Talent, experience, discipline, chemistry, and self-editing improve the odds. The part that makes a melody arrive still feels to him like a gift or, in his words, divine intervention.
Episode highlights
- 1:01 Finding young singers who share his love of traditional country
- 3:14 Why he never quits on artists he truly believes in
- 4:32 Becoming busy again as real lyrics and melodies return
- 5:09 Why traditional country returned further back than the 1990s
- 8:22 Starting a song without a title or prepared idea
- 13:45 Meeting Tim Menzies during Springer's first MCA deal
- 16:18 His grandmother's poetry, a fiddle-playing uncle, and early influences
- 19:20 Why getting a record deal too quickly worked against him
- 21:18 Writing songs with Mark Chesnutt on the tour bus
- 25:31 Why writing partners eventually become family
- 27:15 More than 100 recorded songs and a new gold record
- 32:11 Recording melodies before the moment disappears
- 33:49 Self-editing weak ideas before finishing the wrong song
- 35:02 Why songwriting still feels like divine intervention